Creativity Friday: Interview and giveaway with author Mary Sharratt, author of Daughters of the Witching Hill

This Creativity Friday, I am fortunate to have acclaimed author Mary Sharratt as my guest. Mary’s novel DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL was recently released to a bouquet of glowing praise included a coveted starred review from Publisher’s Weekly. I’ll be posting a review of it soon. Short version: DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL is a spell-binding novel, rich and evocative and very moving. Frankly, it’s one of the best books I’ve read in some time. As I read it, I found myself tearing up at the beauty of her writing as well as at the unrelenting hardness of her main characters’ lives.

DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL is Mary’s fourth novel. She is a writer who traffics in myth and magic and folklore — in other words, the manna of my existence. DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL is set during the infamous Pendle witch trials of 1612. It reveals the true story of Bess Southerns, aka Old Demdike, cunning woman, healer and the most notorious of the Pendle witches, and of Alizon Device, her granddaughter, struggling to come to terms with her family’s troubling legacy. Last month, I was thrilled to host a reading for Mary during her and Jos’s recent visit to New York City — we had a wonderful time. (BTW, the reading is available to watch here as part of our ongoing Authors at the Gallery series.)

In this interview, Mary generously shares with us her experience writing DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL —a process inspired by the Lancashire area in which she lives with her husband Jos and horse Boushka: the story of the Pendle Witches unfolded almost literally in her backyard. She also offers wonderful advice for aspiring authors.

More good news: we’re giving away a copy of DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL to one lucky blog commentor. Details at the end of this post. You can also read an excerpt from the novel here; there’s also a wonderful YouTube video featuring Mary and her horse here.

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Kris Waldherr: DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL offers a revisionist version of the Pendle witch trials. I know you spent a lot of time researching and examining the original documents from the trial. How close is your novel to history? How much was invented? Was there any plot point which you changed for the sake of creating a stronger book?

Mary Sharratt: All the major characters and events in this novel are drawn from the primary source material, The Wonderfull Discoverie of Witches in the Countie of Lancaster, court clerk Thomas Potts’s account of the 1612 Lancashire Witch Trials. I also drew on recent scholarship on historical cunning folk and witches in Early Modern Britain, and on the sweeping social changes emerging from the Reformation. Owen Davies’s Popular Magic: Cunning-folk in English History, Emma Wilby’s Cunning Folk and Familiar Spirits, Ronald Hutton’s The Rise and Fall of Merry England, and Eamon Duffy’s The Stripping of the Altars were huge inspirations to me. All the charms and spells mentioned in the book are based on documented Lancashire folk magic, taken either from the primary source material or from John Harland and T.T. Wilkinson’s book Lancashire Folklore.

I remained as true to history as I could while trying to craft a dramatic plot structure. But I have taken some fictional liberties. There were so many different Nutter families involved in the story, that I had to change the surnames of all but accused witch Alice Nutter’s immediate family to avoid confusion. I also had to change some first names since there were so many Annes and Johns and Elizabeths that even I became confused. Perhaps the biggest liberty I took was making Mother Demdike the illegitimate offspring of the Nowell clan—this is pure fiction on my part with no known basis in fact.

KW: Many fiction writers talk about the challenges involved in crafting the right voice for their characters, especially when a novel is written in first person. In DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL I found the individual voices you concocted stunningly evocative and heartbreaking, especially for Bess Southerns, or Mother Demdike. I could really sense her physical limitations, her struggles. What was your process in creating these women of Pendle? Did you struggle with individuating them?

MS: Before the actual writing of the first draft came months of research and note taking while I tried to work out who the narrator would be. After much reflection, I concluded that Mother Demdike was the catalyst, the one whose personality stood out most strongly. As I wrote the first draft, her voice just seemed to emerge organically from the primary source material and even from the land itself, her native land that I walked each day, mulling over her story in my head. Her voice came very clearly as I wrote down the tale. Later I encountered a hitch when her voice suddenly stopped and the writing process stalled. And then Alizon’s younger, more uncertain voice took over and I realized that if Old Mother Demdike started the tale, young Alizon would spin it to its end.

KW: Of these characters, who was easiest to write? Who was your favorite, or that you identified with the most? Why?

MS: Both voices, once I had “found” them, just seemed to flow with a will of their own. I passionately love both women for different reasons. Bess for her indomitable strength and will and love. She is the epitome of a woman whose character was so strong that others found her scary. Alizon was more hesitant, uncertain, and doubtful, and I identified with her uncertainties, her questing for the deeper meaning of all her family had to endure.

KW: These women’s lives are incredibly difficult — toward the beginning of the book, Bess begs for food until she becomes aware of her healing gifts, which brings her a better life for a while. So much of her family’s rise and fall was tied into King James’ obsession with the occult. Did other women (or men) have similar experiences (whether or not they were practicing witchcraft)?

MS: Whether or not common folk had reputations as witches or cunning folk, they had a hard struggle for survival in East Lancashire. One bad harvest could result in famine and starvation.

East Lancashire had long been a poor backwater, never very prosperous as far as agriculture was concerned—the land was better for grazing than for farming. This was why, in the 18th century, the Industrial Revolution was born here. There were many hands and not enough paid work. These common people, struggling to feed their families, provided the cheap labor for the world’s first industrial cotton mills.

KW: Bess has a rather intense relationship with her familiar, a seductive male named Tibb who also appears as a hound. Only she can view and hear him, though. What did you make of Tibb? Did you think he was real? Or a hallucination? What parallels, if any, are there between Bess’s relationship with her familiar and the shaman’s relationship with the spirit world as healers?

MS: Modern people are allowed their skepticism, but for people in Bess’s era, the spirit world seemed very near—an active presence in daily life. Tibb was real indeed, as far as Bess was concerned.

In traditional English folk magic, no cunning man or cunning woman could work their charms without the aid of their familiar spirit—they needed this otherworldly ally to make things happen. Emma Wilby’s book, Cunning Folk and Familiar Spirits, is a comprehensive scholarly study of cunning folk in Early Modern Britain and their perceived relationship with their familiar spirits. She has drawn some interesting parallels between cunning folk and shamans in tribal societies, and has even compared a cunning person’s life-long relationship with their familiar spirit to that of Siberian shamans’ relationships with their spirit wives or spirit husbands. The spirit was generally, but not always, the opposite gender of the spirit worker, and the familiar spirit often appeared in a very intimate, seductive guise.

Wilby also links the belief in familiar spirits to the Fairy Faith, the lingering belief in fairies and elves that existed alongside Christianity. This connection was also noted by scholars in the Early Modern Period. In his 1677 book, The Displaying of Supposed Witchcraft, Lancashire author John Webster mentions a local cunning man who claimed that his familiar spirit was none other than the Queen of Elfhame herself.

KW: You’ve written other novels — THE VANISHING POINT, which was also set in the seventeenth century, THE REAL MINERVA, and SUMMIT AVENUE, which uses fairy tales as part of its structure. How did your process for writing DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL compare to them? Easier or harder? Better or worse?

MS: My goal in writing fiction is to spin tales with much truth in them, hence interweaving my narratives with myth and fairy tale. I once did a storytelling seminar with Hugh Lupton who said that, “Myths are timeless stories and their function is to tell the truth.” SUMMIT AVENUE draws on dark, raw fairy tales mirroring a young woman’s coming of age in early 20th century Saint Paul. THE REAL MINERVA is a female retelling of The Odyssey—in small town Minnesota. The teenage protagonist’s name is Penelope and she is both the one who makes the journey and the one who waits. Set in 17th century Maryland, THE VANISHING POINT, a tale of star-crossed sisters and their quest for love, drew on the lore of the Green Man and the Vanishing People—the fey folk.

DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL was a departure for me because it was based not on folklore intertwined with fiction but on historical events and the lives of real women and men—a tale of heroism and tragedy that unfolded where I now live. My truth-telling mission here was to right ancient wrongs, to allow these unjustly maligned women to speak through me and finally tell their story in their own voices.

KW: Many of the people who read my blog are also writers. What sage advice would you give to them about the creative process of writing a novel? What do you wish you knew then that you know now?

MS: The primary rule of sustaining a career as a writer is that you’re in it for the long term and you won’t get any reward out of it unless you love the process of actually writing. The end result may bring nothing but rejection letters and rewrite after rewrite. You may have to put aside entire manuscripts before you come up with the one that speaks to a larger audience that finally lets you break through into publication. But even then, this is a highly competitive and volatile business. Great books often get mediocre sales for no particular reason. Love what you do and do your best to support other struggling authors. Buy their books and go to their readings. Help create the kind of writing community that will also welcome you when you get your first book published.

KW: Finally, I understand that you’re working on a novel about Hildegard von Bingen. Can you tell us a little about it? How does it compare to writing DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL with its female healers and cunning women? When can we expect to read it?”

MS: My current novel-in-press, KNOW THE WAYS, will reveal the dramatic life of Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179), Benedictine abbess. She was an incredible character, a polymath who composed an entire corpus of music and wrote books on subjects as diverse as natural science, medicine, and human sexuality—she’s credited as the first person to describe the female orgasm in depth. A mystic and visionary, her prophecies earned her the title Sybil of the Rhine.

Her story arc is amazing. Her parents offered her as a tithe to the Church at the age of eight when she was enclosed—literally walled into a claustrophobic anchorage—with another young girl, Jutta von Sponheim, who probably would be diagnosed with anorexia if she were alive today. Yet Hildegard triumphed to become one of the greatest voices of her age. And she’s not so far removed from my historical witches as people might think. She healed with herbs, crystals, and gemstones, and was guided by visions. I suspect that if she had been born a few centuries later, she might well have been burned as a witch.

I think it will take me another year to finish the novel.

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Thank you, Mary, for an amazing interview! As I mentioned above, Mary has generously given us a copy of DAUGHTERS OF THE WITCHING HILL to raffle off here. To win it, simply leave a comment by midnight, April 29, 2010.

The rules: Only one comment per person. Book can only be shipped to U.S. or Canadian mailing address. Winner will be chosen at random and announced here April 30 next Friday. Good luck to all!

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